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Three weeks ago I searched the definition of 'lockdown' on Google. The meaning was clear.

Lockdown: (noun) Confinement of prisoners into their cells

Look up the same word now and a new definition is appearing at the head of the search terms.

Lockdown: (noun) Institutional isolation or restriction as a security measure

The three week period is significant because for just over three weeks the UK has been in a state of lockdown due to the 2020 COVID-19, Coronavirus pandemic that has quickly spread across the world infecting just about every country and in particular those that had heavy international trade associations with each other.

But like other countries the necessarily imposed lockdown in the UK is starting to show signs of effectiveness and thoughts are turning toward getting back to normality for the sake of the country's economy, people's livelihoods and their mental sanity. The latter apparently because some seem unable to cope with being asked to stay inside and watch a bit of TV for a few weeks to help stop the spread of the deadly virus and so keep the effects at bay.

The question is how the lockdown can be released.

It must be remembered that the lockdown was essentially put into place for a few main reasons. That the restrictions on public interaction would lessen contact spread, the National Health Service would not be overwhelmed with casualties of the crises potentially also destroying large sections of the health workers themselves and also to create time to procure, produce and effectively distribute the protective equipment and machinery required to fight the disease whilst trying to find a lasting cure either by limiting the effect or inoculation against getting it. These considerations were considered when enacting the lockdown and should be considered when lifting it too.

There are five major ways that reversal can be achieved, as below:

A sudden abrupt return to normality

A controlled reversal of the procedures that lead to the lockdown

A controlled release of certain groups of people and business restrictions

A controlled release of certain groups of people and business restrictions based on geographical location

Testing based release

1 - Abrupt Cancellation

The main advantage of an abrupt return to normality would be the possible immediate salvation of many businesses and therefore the best part of the economy. It could be enacted once the health services are better prepared with more suitable treatment and recovery spaces made available, the staff strengths rested and returned to near pre-pandemic levels and plans made to cope with the inevitable next flare up of cases.

The relatively short intermission from normality which we have undertaken would allow our collective psyche to get back to exactly what we were previously doing just a few short weeks ago. No resetting and re-evaluation of matters to contend with and few long term mental issues to deal with. Not forgetting, of course, the sad losses for the thousands of families who have already suffered personal bereavements during this initial wave of pandemic.

The major disadvantage is that the disease will almost certainly reappear. It may also flare up quite quickly.

We would have collectively learnt the best practices to deal with the health care and be quickly ready to respond plus we would also be prepared to get straight back into lockdown again to ease things if required.

However this pattern of lockdown and release is highly likely to have to be enacted many times, with each time many people suffering loss and further disrupting the security of commerce. Plus in time there would be some sectors of society who would tire of the lockdowns and start to ignore the practices.

Furthermore in all likelihood the end point will only come when a cure or vaccine is found or all the vulnerable people have died.

It is the least desirable outcome as it favours trade and the economy over life and humanity and such a blunt tool should not be used.

2 - Simple Reversal

When this disease started to get a grip on the UK, like in other countries, the government and to some level some foresighted businesses started to close down, gradually at first and then near totally to control the spread, lessen the burden on health services and protect lives. Lockdown as we understand it had been enacted.

The measures taken were commensurate with scientific advice and best calculation at the time. This mostly happened within period of just one month. The first recorded UK death being on 5th March 2020 and the lockdown imposed on 23 March 2020. A relatively short period.

It is unlikely that a reversal of the lockdown would follow the timetable of initial lockdown but the pattern of locking things down could be copied, in reverse. In essence, the very first restrictions, essentially travel and tourism, could be the last to be rekindled.

The pattern would broadly follow resurrection of 'non-essential' businesses and educational buildings, then the opening of shops, next the re-establishment of social gatherings such as pubs, clubs and entertainment venues and finally travel and tourism.

The theory behind this gradual return to a normality would be that it should have scientific basis as it retraces the pattern of lockdown, it would get the economy working as soon as is practical and the inevitable stress on the health sector could be controlled, if not eliminated.

This is the process that appears to be being enacted in the first European countries to attempt reversal of their lockdowns.

The disadvantage could come in three forms. The potential for the process to be so withdrawn as to seem ineffective and thus encourage some to attempt to bypass it endangering the control measures. Plus the potential for many of the finally released industries to take so long to get to their point of recovery that they are largely unrecoverable.

However the main issue is that unless a cure or vaccine is discovered the final death toll could still be unacceptably high, particularly amongst the most vulnerable, because future breakouts could still occur.

3 - By Groups

To protect the most lives it is considered that the best way to do this is to protect the most vulnerable.

A return from lockdown could follow a similar pattern to that described just above but be tempered with strict controls on the most likely to suffer the worst effects, such as elongated hospital stays or even death.

People who fall into this category include the very elderly, those with pre-existing medical conditions such as those with weakened lung or heart capacity, those in the midst of treatment such as cancer that include immunosuppression drugs and heavily pregnant women and their children.

In this scenario these groups would need special and long term protection and isolation. Care facilities would need to be established with strict access control for carers utilising the safest protection equipment. In fact effective testing of carers would be required to ensure these people are not subjected to unnecessary risk.

This is all possible but would take some time to enact. Particularly the separation of affected and non-affected elderly people already holed up in care homes throughout the country.

The other aspect of releasing lockdown based on groups of peoples or businesses would be addressing specific business needs and considering individual economic needs against associated health risks. Examples may be the true necessity for selling certain goods and the ability for businesses to conduct social distancing within their operating environments.

Another group separation could be by age, particularly as statistics suggest the younger the person the lesser the chance of falling very ill. Could businesses employing predominantly younger staff be allowed to operate before those that employ people that are older?

The principle behind group consideration is that those that are least likely to contract bad cases of the disease would be allowed to roam more freely, more frequently than older people which would be the fastest route to group herd immunity, thus saving the most lives.

The difficulty would be being able to separate by age and the need for constant testing to establish those with asymptomatic tendencies.

4 - By Geography

Another scenario is a mix of previous suggestions but tempered with consideration of geography and was considered because a week or so ago a fairly unreported note during one of the daily government briefings mentioned the setting up of regional administration areas.

In all likelihood this was more an early consideration in case the pandemic took a more deadly path, where lockdown was ineffective and deaths started to reach numbers likely to panic the general population and so requiring civil control measures.

But a consideration of geography may be a wise move. After all the effects have not been geographically evenly spread and has had greater effect in certain areas, generally those of more population density such as large cities.

Maybe a system could be set up to completely isolate geographic areas. Possibly by county, or even by city. With travel between strictly controlled. That way when lockdown is eased and business starts to re-establish itself and in the event of a fresh outbreak that area alone could be locked down again, leaving others to thrive.

Maybe the countryside would feel relief first, a place where social distancing can be most easily maintained and importantly food production is largely carried out. Then inter-city areas and hamlets, followed by bigger and bigger towns and cities until the required herd immunity is established.

An alternative to county or city segregation could be by health authority or hospital catchment area. In this way the capacity of the medical care facilities could determine the speed in which their community could be returned to normality, with transference of staff to the most affected areas from places that are safer.

The main disadvantages of this method would be the administrative burden of the inter-area travelling permits, the required police and army resources to effectively confine such areas and the fact that some of our most economically valuable businesses operate in the largest cites where the longest lockdowns are likely to occur.

5 - Accurate Testing

Finally, there is the testing method. In this case, in essence, a reliable test needs to be established to show if COVI-19 has been with each person. Data is suggesting that many have caught the virus but shown no ill effect. Is the herd immunity already taking place?

If a reliable, scalable test can be developed then maybe those who have already had the disease could return to work first, providing they are no longer carriers.

In time more people could be 'given' the disease in a safe, controlled, health monitored way, until only those that are too unhealthy to accept such a risk are left.

A good proportion of the population would be be back in work and the few left would have to await a safe vaccination. Which may take many months.

The major disadvantages to this are the need for scalable, reliable tests, the guarantee that previously recovered souls are not subject to a mutated variant of the disease, the speed that the health authorities could control a positive infection programme plus the risks that deliberately infecting otherwise healthy people could bring.


You can see that getting out of lockdown will be far more taxing than getting into it. However it is a necessity and hopefully governments such as ours in the UK are tracing out many scenarios based around all the above plus other ideas, all in our best interests.

And it will be in our best interests to follow whatever their strict guidance is. For we should all collectively be considering everybody, selflessly at this historic moment.

Let's hope that in the near future we can search the definition of 'lockdown' on Google and it will just note:

Lockdown: (noun) Confinement of prisoners into their cells; Also: Institutional isolation or restriction as a security measure, such as once occurred briefly in 2020

Author: Vince Poynter
Version 5.291 [amended] 16 Apr 20 [Method 5 - Testing added]
First published as Version 5.291 14 Apr 20
The theory of Herd Immunity is where many individuals in a group have immunity to a disease and so the few that are susceptible are less likely to come across the disease and if they do the outbreak will be both limited and traceable
Asymptomatic means having a disease and being able to spread it without outwardly showing signs

What If...I was The Next PM?

What If...I was the next Prime Minister?

Let's first clear up a few perhaps obvious points. Firstly I am unlikely to be. It's not completely impossible of course but highly unlikely. The greater likelihood being that following Prime Minister Theresa May's resignation today the next British PM will be a Conservative member of Parliament, chosen by the national registered Conservative Party Membership from a whittled down list of two candidates who emerge following a public bun flinging contest on Newsnight. Apologies if I haven't quite got the grip of the contest rules exactly accurately.

But if I were how would I proceed with the main agendas we face at the moment?

Well firstly, and when I say firstly it means firstly after appointing all the cabinet postings, getting a new key for Number 10, thinking up a secure password for the Nuke buttons and popping over to see The Queen etc. Firstly, I would need to do something about the most pressing issue of the day. Brexit.

I would immediately appoint two very senior Ministerial positions. A Brexit one and another to handle everything else.  With overall responsibility remaining with myself, like all good leaders.

The one handling everything else would have to coordinate the economy, education issues, defence, security, work, pensions, foreign relationships etc just like a normal PM but crucially not concern themselves overtly with Brexit. That would be the sole job of the other one. Each having equal rank and status, both reporting to me.

This way Brexit, whilst crucial to our situation, would not dominate everything else but still be ranked as highly important.

On the subject of Brexit the clock is ticking away with the latest date being the end of October when France et all will apparently cut loose the chains that bind us to Europe and we will float off to a Neverland of uncertainty. Theresa May's departure shows that getting agreement on a deal to stop all this happening in an uncontrolled way is extremely difficult.

To resolve this issue I would immediately revoke the current deal and start again. This will need some time so to do this I would revoke Article 50 with a note that it is not over yet backed up by waving a new yet to be signed Withdrawal Notice at the EU saying that this is still the direction to go.

This would give time to freshly recommence the negotiations and they would start on the premise of a simple No Deal.

In truth nobody wants No Deal but the general public understand what this means and delivers on many of the concerns that drove the albeit marginal victory result of the June 2016 Election.

Because neither the EU nor the UK want a sterile No Deal I would be able to add back in the less controversial issues such as retaining cooperation on security issues such as continuing support of defence and international policing, on international ecological and climate issues, on medical and technological research projects, on food and industry standards, and on human rights and minimum wages issues.

There would be no legal precedent issues on any of these, to avoid UK Sovereignty being undermined. Just good old common sense adoption of common standards and regulations to keep things aligned.

The EU may be minded to set about these fresh negotiations with an agenda of their own choosing, notably once more wanting to agree a 'divorce bill' first but this would not be acceptable. The value of the 'divorce' would be considered but it would be a calculation based on fairness when all else is ready to go. And the threat of a stark No Deal would remain to concentrate their minds if they get all bossy again.

I think the above would be a great way to start as a PM. And don't forget the other senior Minister would be immediately free to set to work on the other pressing issues of the day from debt reduction and the economy to Health and Food Banks.

And if you want to know what I would do on the second day as PM you will just have to get me elected.

Author: Vince Poynter
Version 5.261 28 May 2019
First published on the vinceunlimited WordPress web site at on 24 May 2019

Regional Powerhouses

A Political Sketch

The Government [Philip Hammond] announced an extension to the Regional Economic Areas Development scheme to include the Midlands Engine and suggested other regions are limited only by the government thinking up catchy titles. Has a committee been formed to look into this issue, I wonder…

Type: 2 and a half minute sketch with 7 differing voices, set in a meeting room.

Main Speaker: Alright, Alright. Settle down. Now, we've convened this meeting to discuss the new Regional Development areas. As you are aware the last coalition government started this whole thing with the formation of the Northern Powerhouse, in order to boost economic growth in the north. And last November the government announced a similar project for the Birmingham area called the Midlands Engine. Now we can’t possibly create other regions without first thinking up catchy names. So time for your input. Any ideas?

[Hampshire Accent]: Yes, we were expecting this. And we want the South to be thought of as just as important so we want our region to be called the Turbocharged South.

Main Speaker: The Turbocharged South. An excellent proposal. Just what we are looking for. Well done. And what about the others?

[Norfolk Accent]: What about for us we call it the Energised East?

Main Speaker: OK. Great call. People of the east will be able to rally round this. Any more?

[Scottish Accent]: Aye, in Scotland we could go with something strong like Scottish Might.

Main Speaker: That's the spirit Scotland. So can you match that Wales?

[Welsh Accent]: If they can have that we want The Weight Of Wales.

Main Speaker: The Weight of Wales. Super. Love your thinking. That's the idea. And you guys?

[Belfast Accent]: Maybe. Yes, I know. I thought along the lines of Force Northern Ireland.

Main Speaker: So, we have some great names for our regions. We have Northern Powerhouse, the Midlands Engine, Turbocharged South, The Energised East and The Weight of Wales. Plus Scottish Might and Force Northern Ireland. Just one area left it seems.

[Devon Accent]: [Feebly] We haven't really got a catchy title.

Main Speaker: Oh come on. You don’t want to be left behind.

[Devon Accent]: That’s OK. We’re well used to that.

Main Speaker: Is there anything at all you can think of? What about South West is Best?

[Devon Accent]: Well. That would be fine but it isn’t is it?

Main Speaker: Oh come on. What about Super South West?

[Devon Accent]: You haven’t been to Plymouth have you? … But, we do do great pasties.

Main Speaker: Pasties?

[Devon Accent]: And cream teas. We do really rather good cream teas, you know.

Main Speaker: So it’s to be the Northern Powerhouse, Midlands Engine, Turbocharged South, Energised East, The Weight of Wales, Scottish Might, Force Northern Ireland and Pastie & Cream Tea South West.

[Devon Accent]: And Tin. Don’t forget the tin.

Main Speaker: Tin?

[Devon Accent]: Well not so much now, but we have got Royal biscuits.

Main Speaker: Pasty & Cream Tea, used to do a bit of Tin but now it’s more Royal biscuits South West.

[Devon Accent]: Yes. That’s what we want.

Main Speaker: I give up. So for the record we will have Northern Powerhouse, Midlands Engine, the Turbocharged South, Energised East, The Weight of Wales, Scottish Might, Force Northern Ireland and … Also the South West?


You are welcome to use this sketch, on stage or video but credit and royalties must be given to Vince Poynter as the author. An invite to see it performed would also be welcomed, along with requests for more sketches, which can be scripted on any subject. Contact me for more information.

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Author: Vince Poynter
First published here, Version 5.257 18 Feb 2019
This sketch was first presented to the BBC as part of the Newsjack radio submission process on 13 Oct 2016 and again in early 2017 but was not selected for broadcast
The photograph is of the author leaping into a pool in Mallorca, Spain around 1990


Thoughts, Corrections and Ideas By Vince Poynter

It’s no good. I can wait no longer. I need to pitch in with some thoughts about the most important political machinations in my lifetime. Brexit.

The trouble is it happened at all the wrong time for me. I’ve been far too busy sorting out my web site and you know, priorities.

Thankfully Brexit is not simple so it’s still a thing and here is my take on it all.

UK and EU

The United Kingdom is a proud body of nations. Worldwide we punch well above our weight, commanding respect around the planet. Our language is as close to universal as you can get. Our values and democracy are widely exported and we were the last peoples to have a substantial empire. One which we voluntarily deconstructed and ceremonially maintain.

We have an enviable military record which has transformed from a successful conquering nation to a force for good and as a result have built long standing worldwide trading partners.

Our past inventions and current skills are shared everywhere and we are a go to place for education, research and financial stability.

Yet despite all this as a people we are considered modest, liberal and welcoming, which is why we share in our continent’s modern European collective dream of peace and trade with ever diminishing borders.

Europe itself continued to fuse together politically and as modern world technology allowed closer shared values and industry the borders and differences have become less relevant. Previous warring nations had matured so learned to live peacefully alongside each other and area distinctions became less relevant. The European dream was a winning formula and adjacent nations queue to participate.

But we were never all in with Europe. We kept our own currency, limited our acceptance of full borderless movement of peoples, negotiated discounts on our share of the costs of the union and crucially never really considered ourselves as truly European.

There remains a slight skepticism about the ultimate European Dream and where this all may lead and discussions about closer integration were pitched against loss of true national identity, political control and power. Europe was always seen as somewhere else despite ever closer ties, shared values, integration and the geographical physical closeness.

Meanwhile, Elsewhere

Whilst all the above is happening there is a rest of the world and the Brexit story is linked to this as well.

Just like Europe the rest of the world had been benefiting from better ties between nations through improved communications technology. A new dawn of international understanding and cooperation is sweeping the globe and through shared information and values we can all now have a deeper and more comprehensive understanding and appreciation of each other’s cultural differences.

Genocides, greed and corruption are no longer globally tolerated and thankfully no longer buried within local knowledge. Poverty, climate change, population expansion and hunger are common shared concerns which are being tackled on a world-wide basis.

But there are a few areas and conflicts that remain a concern to world stability and in some cases religious intolerance is preventing full neighbourly acceptance.

These modern war zones have displaced citizens who migrate to safety elsewhere. Mostly to their geographical neighbourhood but sometimes further afield and in general Western European democracies have tried to assist by offering shelter to those that most need it.

This assistance has partly inspired economic migrants as well who see opportunities abroad to better their own lifestyles and those of their families and the migration is often heralded by young male members of families, strong and determined enough to suffer the long, dangerous and arduous journey.

In fact in 2015 German Chancellor Angela Merkel positively encouraged such migration with a call out for a million new refugees to bolster the younger demographic of her country, in part to support an ageing population, a common issue for developed western cultures.

Repercussions of all of the above meant that many people around the Middle East and North Africa decided that it was time to migrate to a wealthier life.

And amongst these souls were a handful of ne’er-do-wells, often fresh from a losing conflict intent on bringing terrorism direct into the heart of their perceived foes.

And just for good measure all this happened at a time of global recession.

Farage The Architect

In many western democracies the success of liberal centrist parties was being questioned.

Although apparently modern and inclusive the soft approach failed to meet the full needs of all within the constraints of a free market, capitalist society.

This meant the gap between the rich and the poor was growing ever wider with seemingly little control.

Furthermore the valued concept of free speech was being questioned at a time when more and more rights were being bestowed on ever specific minorities, often to prevent perceived if not actual discrimination.

Plus due to increased racial integration some communities began to look physically different from the photographs and memories of older generations. It sometimes looked as if some places in the UK even appeared to be excluding traditionally native Britons even though those accused were often multi-generational British.

To counter this a new wave of right of centre political parties emerged here and was mirrored across many other countries.

Many were radical and borderline offensive but some were just highly patriotic dreamers and in the UK this was best embodied in the United Kingdom Independence Party, or UKIP, under their charismatic leader Nigel Farage.

UKIP wanted a return to unspecified, classic, British traditional values by putting restrictions on immigration to allegedly bolster wages, particularly in the lowest paid, along with reducing unemployment. Alongside a return to full UK sovereignty with complete independence from Europe. And the message resonated well with many, particularly with those who would traditionally be Conservative Party voters.

The incumbent Conservative political party, led by Prime Minister David Cameron, had for a long time suffered from split opinions over Europe and many previous leaders before him had fallen foul of such disagreements.

The rise of Farage’s UKIP threatened to further split the party rendering it potentially vulnerable to a dormant and previously ineffective opposition in Labour with a part popular, new, radical left wing leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

So David Cameron decided it was time to bury the European debate once and for all by offering the country a referendum on our European membership. Presumably figuring that it was a simple case of demonstrating how dumb it was to split from a successful and strong long standing political and trading arrangement. And to teach the pesky Farage and his cohorts a lesson.

All these political machinations were played out and analysed on news and political shows but rarely strayed far beyond these specialist programmes so the general populace continued their contented ignorance of such matters.

Reasoned Vote

Despite much general apathy on political matters beforehand Cameron called a national referendum on the subject to be held on 23 June 2016, which due to the rarity of such events spiked some interest outside of those normally following political and economic news stories and as a result Brexit became a thing.

Posing a referendum question is fraught with complications. The question has to be simple to understand and present an opportunity for a simple answer. This dumbing down of complex issues can summarise but can also smear an otherwise complex issue.

The question put was simply:

‘Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?’

No further explanation was offered.

A few points here. Firstly, one has to question, were all the participants able to understand the complex decision? Even two years of fierce debate later by every conceivable specialist very little agreement can be made between those seeing the same situation in differing lights.

Secondly, the question could be considered flawed as the only options were to leave the Union or the Status Quo. This implies a choice between a thrilling voyage of new discovery or more of the same old boring stuff. If, for any reason anyone has any disillusion about any matter even remotely associated with the subject they may believe change is the better course. And a third option of closer integration, with full and complete EU membership, which may offer some people similar excitement was not included.

Thirdly, no limits were set on interpretation of the vote. One side could effectively ‘win’ with just a single vote differential. No statistical significance would be considered, for instance requiring a two thirds majority to trigger change or to claim the result as inconclusive if there was less than a 2-3% margin.

Voting Reasons

Many commentators claim to know why people voted one way or another but considered voices should conclude that there were several possible reasons people made their choice. For clarity I think these can be broken down into four broad categories.

  • Independence
  • Power
  • Security [From terrorism]
  • Political
  • Change
  • Distrust
  • Message clarity
  • Recession
  • Subversion
  • Xenophobia
  • Immigration
  • Pride
  • Racism
  • Societal shifting
  • Other
    Desire for change
  • Fear of change
  • Intrigue
  • Cost
  • Uneuropean
  • Let’s explore these in more detail.


    For many the loss of constitutional power to the EU from the UK was a paramount factor in their decision making. Many stories had emerged where UK High Court judgements were subsequently overturned by the Court of Justice of the European Union. Judgements such as the 12 year dispute between the UK and EU Court of Human Rights regarding the rights of voting for prisoners.

    Many believe the UK should be able to decide who in the UK can vote.

    This is essentially an independence issue, which is why UKIP were so named.

    The loss of the highest supreme court is seen as a loss of power, particularly if one dismisses the actual nature of being in a shared union whilst being a key member of it.

    The security issue is a concern because without European membership the UK could control their own immigration and this can be perceived as a safer way of keeping baddies out in the first place. However this argument never considers the proportion of internal ‘home grown’ risk compared to external sources. In truth security is nearly always improved with a closer union with others.


    Almost certainly some voted based on political assumptions. Rarely, nowadays, do you hear political commentators mentioning the attempts to overthrow the government by removing the incumbent Prime Minister. However, whenever a national question is posed and defended in one particular way by the PM some sections of the community look beyond logical reasons and use the vote to make a protest against whatever it is that the PM is advocating.

    This attitude was not helped because the opposition Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, who seemed at best indifferent on the subject of continued membership of the EU, point blank refused to share a platform with Cameron nudging it more toward being a party political issue. This was a key decision as Corbyn’s fanatical following were vociferous and determined to share their views on various influential Social Media platforms.

    So, some votes were probably cast based on anti-government consideration, subversion or wanting a change of political control.

    It should be remembered that the majority of campaigners within the government and opposition wanted to stay part of the union so it appeared that our appointed parliamentarians were at odds with the general population. This enhanced further distrust of the political establishment.

    Here we have to also consider the effect of the overwhelming number of skilled commentators who passionately pleaded with the public to not make a backwards leap into a modern untested break with Europe. Politicians of all parties, economic experts, business leaders and political commentators lined up to suggest Brexit would be a bad thing for the economy, trade, security, employment and the standing of the UK.

    Despite all this, or more probably because of this, there was a growing groundswell of thought that maybe the ‘establishment’ were just pleading to maintain the status quo because this helped a perceived subjugation of the people. Why were they so passionate? Ergo they had something to hide.

    The disorganised Brexiteers, in contrast, may have been a rag tag mix of different party politicians appearing under different group names but they had key media savvy names in Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Michael Gove.

    Conservatives particularly appeared to be arguing on both sides with Gove and Johnson emerging to become key Brexiteers, primarily I believe to avoid Farage becoming a main player. Because if that had happened and the general population chose to leave the Union all Brexiteer politicians could have to have fallen under the control of Mr Farage who could then potentially have a legitimate claim to be the next Prime Minister. Admittedly a large leap of circumstances considering he isn’t even a Member of Parliament.

    And between all the Brexiteers they conveyed simple messages such as ‘Take Back Control’, the infamous bus plastered with a future £350m saving for our use on the NHS and posters of queues of apparently foreign nationals which attempted to suggest our country was soon to be dealing with an unlimited number of incomers.

    Whilst we are here let’s be clear that the £350m per week saving ‘bus’ message was not presented without context, despite the way some current media outlets portray this. There were contemporaneous discussions with Boris Johnson explaining the figure was actually a gross number and was subject to deductions for return spend to the UK but nevertheless the message was that free of the EU the UK could choose how to spend their money themselves and the NHS was a prime example of a choice that could be made.

    Despite this in many subsequent debates about the ‘bus logo’ the media allowed persistent incorrect reporting that the ‘leave’ campaigners disingenuously splashed a misleading exaggerated figure without thought. Yes it was provocatively chosen but that’s their prerogative. And whilst we are at it, it was nothing to do with Nigel Farage even though he was often associated with the idea and as a result personally suffered a loss of trust because of the claim.

    Add all this to the fact that parliamentarians in some quarters were seen as perpetrators of the [actually global] recession or at least contributing to the continuation of it.


    Immigration concerns had been around for decades. Older people particularly had fond childhood memories of their home towns and villages populated by people that looked just the same as they did. Their own memories were backed by photographic and film evidence and the changed look of modern society implied an altered environment. Particularly when entire communities and schools were being depicted clearly demonstrating a differing skin tone or maybe dress sense with traditionally white faces a minority.

    However, instead of choosing to embrace such diversity many saw this as an erosion of purity, a degradation, with attendant lessening of pride. Plus closer unions and communication with near and far neighbours who usually spoke in a different tongue indicated a future continuation of societal shifting. This despite the fact that proportionally the overwhelming majority of UK citizens are still predominantly unchanged.

    Another key factor was the fact that during the prelude to the referendum the weather and circumstances favoured sea crossing for migrants into Southern Europe. The media relished the dramatic images of survival or loss with equal glee along with colourful images implying a greater mass transit than was actually occurring. And it was thought that if they could come from south west Europe and be welcomed then will the next contingent come from further afield?

    To really drive home this issue the public could recall a recent heart wrenching personal story with pictures of a 3 year old Syrian boy, Alan Kurdî, on 2 September 2015. He had drowned and washed ashore but looked less like a foreign migrant and more like a typical little boy. The memorable photos showed he was tenderly carried up the beach by a local, captured on film by Turkish journalist Nilüfer Demir. Sympathy appeared almost universal for this little child and to his family but didn’t quite extend fully to others who risked similar fates. In some ways the public seemed to desire less migration just so they were saved the discomfort of facing the reality of actual humanity.

    Finally, racism may be a strong term with many unpleasant overtones but the inability of our language to separate true unfair and spiteful racism from misjudged xenophobia and also from a desire to maintain tradition and from genuine heartfelt concerns can lead to deep division. Certainly deep enough to affect a key referendum on foreign union.


    Another reason to vote one way or another is a simple desire for change, albeit to clutch desperately onto a notion of optimism, or perhaps to seek alternatives due to boredom or maybe even just to see what happens. Undoubtedly, the whole process can be seen as fascinating or intriguing as well as frightening.

    Some may have had concerns over the costs or benefits from either remaining or leaving. Here experts lined up to give assurances or perhaps cast doubt about how much it will all cost. And it may be fair to consider at this point that Nigel Farage did accept that there may be a cost to the economy following a Brexit but on further interrogation claimed it was a price worth paying.

    Add to this many flippant but entertaining tabloid stories of European rules which allegedly forced alterations to commonly known foodstuffs such as requirements about the curvature of fruit made many see the idea of further integration with Europe as bananas.

    The EU has rarely benefitted from positive information. Our lazy media, quick to exploit and simplify a story, has tended to concentrate on bearing bad news. This attitude is amplified further by amateur commentators on Social Media platforms.

    Stories such as criticising the cost of the EU administration without considering that some of that money is used to employ UK nationals.

    Or to be generally silent on the excellent work that has been achieved in political cooperation, improving our food and manufacturing standards, standardising products to enable simpler market access to a much wider audience and security cooperation to make us all safer.

    Remember the UK is/was/has been [depends on when you read this] a member state and has/had votes and about 10% of the MEPs

    And finally but quite importantly a large majority of UK citizens just don’t really see themselves as European at all, except maybe geographically.

    The Verdict

    The referendum result came in and shocked many political commentators and news outlets as the leave campaigners were generally expected to win.

    From the 46.5m eligible to vote there was a high turnout of over 72%.

    Of these 33.5m people just under 17.5m voted to leave the EU and just over 16m voted to remain. A percentage split of 52% leave to 48% remain.

    It can be read that if just 634,751 voted differently the result would have changed. In percentage terms this is just under 1.4% of the electorate.

    Region splits showed differing breakdowns and these will be discussed later but in general England and Wales voted to leave and Scotland and Northern Ireland wanted to stay.

    In England, a split became apparent between populous metropolitan areas who favoured remaining whilst other areas wanted to leave. Other studies pointed to a variation in voting amongst the older and younger generations with a tendency to prefer a leave option the older one became.

    The results sent a shock wave through the political community, with the result catching many unaware. Those who had campaigned to remain were surprised that their message had not been more adhered to and those that wanted to leave appeared to be even more shocked at their victory. In fact in early discussions soon after the result showed that the leave campaign were a long way from even having properly thought through the dramatic implications.

    Political Fallout

    The result particularly shocked the political establishment with an almost instant resignation of the Prime Minister. Cameron had led the campaign to remain but in failure decided he could not reasonably lead the nation in another direction. Many have criticised this decision but it was an honest and reasonable one in the circumstances.

    As a result political chaos broke out with a Tory party leadership election called on 9 September 2016. It wouldn’t take this time because expected front runners dropped out for various reasons. Former Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, was too close to Cameron and the remain campaign so was the first to be discounted. Boris Johnson was the next major player to dissolve when his former ‘Vote Leave’ colleague Michael Gove publicly stated Johnson could not lead the team. However Gove himself got voted out of the election after passing two ballots but being eliminated during the members’ vote stage.

    This left Andrea Leadsom and Theresa May. However, an inappropriate comment on motherhood in The Times forced her to withdraw leaving the leadership open to the now unopposed, new, Prime Minister Theresa May who took office on 13 July 2016.


    But what exactly is Brexit?

    Early on many asked what does Brexit mean? Theresa May famously said Brexit means Brexit. Most understood what she meant even if they found it hard to articulate but some were confused.

    Unfortunately we haven't the language to respond effectively. However before being too critical consider whether it is possible to describe what remaining in the EU looks like. Remain means remain.

    So, what should Brexit mean?

    The basics should be:

    The UK should have ultimate legal jurisdiction over its subjects, citizens and visitors

    The UK decides who can live or be here in the UK

    The UK decides the currency used here

    The UK decides who it can trade with

    The UK decides which standards should be applied in food, health and business

    The 50th Article

    The first formal act to set off the Brexit process is to lodge a formal document of intent to leave with the EU, specifically Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union. This was issued by the Prime Minister on 29 March 2017. It was the first time a sovereign member state had issued such a document.

    The Article states that the withdrawing state ends its obligations with Europe two years after the issuing of the document, unless the European Council agrees to an extension. This set the actual leaving date to be set in stone at 29 March 2019. Unless the European Council agrees to an extension.

    Two years to negotiate the terms of withdrawal. Two years to untangle all the legal documentation formed and agreed over 40 years of close cooperation. Two years to set up new replacement UK legal documentation. Two years for international businesses to make the necessary adjustments. Two years of uncertainty whilst all the above is enacted.

    It was clearly a lot to do and at the time many commentated that the UK lacked the required number of skilled negotiators compared to the EU and did not have enough to do all the work in time, although I never saw any indication of recruitment of an army of people to do this.

    Very little discussion was held after the initial issue of Article 50 about the potential extension of time allowed? This focussed negotiations and could be considered as a good thing as one of the biggest issues raised since has been the uncertainty and a delay to the exit date would just prolong such uncertainty.

    Two years to do all this and the EU were not really able to commence their side of negotiations until the French and German political elections were completed. This meant that meaningful negotiations didn’t start until June 2017. However, just one thing seemed to be on the EU’s agenda before that date…


    In a previous section above entitled ‘The Vote’ you may have noticed a major omission in the lists and that is the issue of the ‘divorce bill’.

    If you have read this article so far you could have rightly assumed that I had an above average interest in this whole subject. As a result I watched much of the pre-referendum debate and analysis so consider myself to have been as reasonably informed as any non professional in the matters at hand but not once, in all the political programmes, news reports or social media tidbits did I hear anything about having to pay a lump sum to Europe as compensation for leaving.

    But it was the first thing that the European negotiating team jumped on. Almost selfishly insisting that unless a substantial sum was agreed to be paid in compensation then all negotiations would stall. This effectively reduced the remaining time to negotiate the far more complex trade and legal issues substantially.

    This ‘divorce bill’ as it became known, now seems actually based on logical fairness even if the initial estimates demanded by the EU were excessively greedy, up to over €100m [£88bn], partly to discourage other member states from following the UK’s lead and seeking their own ‘Brexit’.

    The sum, which currently stands at an estimated £39bn, is designed to cover current UK agreements and obligations up to the end of 2020. It includes such requirements as UK citizen pension liabilities. It excludes any liabilities during the withdrawal procedure up to 29 March 2019, which remain unchanged from previous years agreements as if the UK had never issued Article 50. So no sign of that ‘£350m/week yet’

    Plus the final sum will not be finally agreed until the UK Parliament approves the whole withdrawal agreement. Currently forecast as the month of sometiuary in the year 20andSomethingBig.


    Negotiations seemed to have followed a pattern since. With much reporting of what the UK should offer and compromise on then the EU curtly dismissing things and asking the UK to come up with some fresh ideas.

    This reflects badly on the EU negotiating team and therefore appears less like a joint negotiation and more like a series of pleas.

    Even on the subject of foreign nationals within each area, the UK have promised reasonable stability to those already here but the EU have made no such parallel promises to UK citizens in the EU.

    Theresa May and her team must take responsibility for allowing the EU to take such a stance, which is partially caused because the major negotiation factor for the UK was the valuation of the divorce bill as currently the UK are such a generous funder of the EU. When the UK allowed the EU to railroad this issue before any other was discussed it lost control of the talks and have been on the back foot since.

    However I do applaud one aspect of the negotiation and that is the agreement on all the entangled legal documents which were trailed as a major factor. Most had envisaged long tough meetings taking all of the time and considerable resources. But one smart arse came up with the fantastic idea of The European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018. A brilliantly simple piece of legislation which singlehandedly extracts ourselves from many listed previous European legislations and replaces them with what accounts to ‘we still abide by each and every one until we can be bothered to rewrite them to exclude the French etc.’

    However, as it has all been hastily compiled and at present most new legislation is far from complete would it be a good idea if we put together a legal footing to ensure no one can benefit from any unconverted EU to UK legislation?



    Scotland has a troubled relationship with the rest of the UK. For centuries there were disputes between the English and Scottish but the Union was formed in 1707 after King James 6 of Scotland inherited England and Ireland, becoming James 1 of England. Although more than 300 years has since passed many Scottish people still feel too isolated from England to feel part of the same team.

    Other than history this could be due to geographic distance, separation of regional and national identities, not sharing identical monies and quite importantly the separation of nationality for sports events. For example during the Olympics both the Scottish and English are team mates competing under one flag but in the far more important sports of football and rugby the teams are competitors.

    Scotland, although occupying a third of the UK land mass has much less than 10% of the population probably due to having nine tenths of the weather. Therefore if they feel separate then thoughts could harbour feelings of inferiority to their larger neighbour and this is often manifested in what is said north of the border. I have heard many Scots claiming to dislike or even hate the English, even whilst resident in England, but cannot recall any time hearing such sentiment about the Scottish within England. The sentiment of many Englishfolk is confusion and sadness on why Scotland wishes such independence.

    In 1997 Scottish nationalism secured under a referendum an independent Scottish Parliament which perpetuated a perception that the UK government did not have the needs of the Scottish people in their heart, equal to the rest. And since then Scottish nationalism has further grown in popularity, particularly under the skilled leadership of the charismatic leader of the Scottish National Party, Nicola Sturgeon.

    For a few years now the SNP has run a strong, supported campaign for Scotland to become a fully independent nation.

    Although when put to the test in a referendum in September 2014 the majority voted against a split from the UK.

    In the Brexit referendum the majority also expressed a wish to remain in the EU. Although these particular voters may not necessarily be the same people of course.

    The average Scot therefore appears to like the Status Quo and likes being part of a strong SNP, despite the SNP reasoning that a Brexit may be the impetus to reignite the desire for an independence split from the UK. Ironically to join another union with the EU. The people’s at odds with the politicians, just like south of the border.

    It’s all very confusing. Unless you compare things to Northern Ireland.

    Personally whether we Brexit, remain or fly off to Mars I would hope the Scottish remain part of the UK. Hey guys, why keep speaking as if not part of the Union, our Union? And please media and commentators stop elucidating as if this was the case.


    The majority of Welsh people voted to leave the EU. In this respect the Welsh are just like the English outside of big metropolitan areas. Which is a way of describing the majority of Wales anyway.

    Although, like Scotland, the Welsh have their own devolved parliament and similar potential reasons for feeling subjugated in comparison to the English. However the people there do not harbour such thoughts. Wales, unique, in language and tradition still clearly accept membership of the same team. Nationally speaking, not sporting of course.

    Northern Ireland

    Despite the sounding off of some commentators the peculiar circumstances relating to any impact Brexit would have on Northern Ireland was mentioned before the vote. Many forecasted the issues that this most unique part of the UK would face.

    Geographically it is the only part that shares a substantial border with another member state of the EU. And this adjacency has caused issues since its inception in 1921 and the people’s either side of the border have been unable to contain their strong opposing opinions for as long as anyone can remember.

    In particular the 1970s were a recently memorable period when such opposing views were highlighted in a period of extreme violence.

    In essence the island of Ireland, naturally geologically a single entity, is mostly taken up by Ireland but the north-east corner is part of the UK. Some from Northern Ireland believe Ireland should be reunited as one but more want to remain British. Unsurprisingly religious difference underlies these two opposing factions which never seems to calm down a stressful situation.

    Despite this turbulent history since 1998 and the signatories to the Good Friday Agreement the island seemed to have come to a sensible peace so trade, community and communications have blossomed meaning the underlying differences are now recognised and debated in an a mature manner.

    Then Brexit and with it the potential opening of old concerns about segregation. No one appeared to want a return to the days of solid borders so the majority of the Northern Irish people voted to remain in the EU.

    For about a year the peculiar difficulties surrounding Northern Ireland and Brexit were barely mentioned but intensity increased in the later months and suddenly media and commentators started bleating on about how no one had foreseen the problems and nothing had been mentioned. This is patently not true and an insult to those in Northern Ireland who had obviously considered their own predicament from the outset.

    My main point here is that neither Ireland nor Northern Ireland should fear a Brexit because if it is the will of the people to not have a physical border then just don’t have one by policing any trade border and discouraging any who seek to flout the situation.


    Northern Ireland hasn’t the only joint UK/EU border. Gibraltar shares a strip of land with Spain and historically Spain are not happy about this. Not only thinking they should have the strip but also the rest of the island as well. Gibraltarians disagree as they remain firm members of the UK.

    This upsets the Spanish because they want the natural resources associated with the land and surrounding waters along with the strategic location at the pinch point between Europe, Africa and the Mediterranean Sea.

    And just like I mentioned about border issues with Ireland, Gibraltar was mentioned before the vote so please desist in commentating that this was never discussed before.

    The Territory voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining, as could have been expected from a community attached to mainland Europe where most residents are English/Spanish bilingual.

    January 2019

    This story has yet to be played out. At the time of writing there are about two and a half months before the exit date. It could be extended but at present most are working toward avoiding that.

    Parliament is at odds with the Government and with itself. Not really knowing which way to go.

    An unpopular Brexit Deal made with Europe and yet to be voted on by Parliament looks like a fudge. With all the sugar removed. It fails to address anyones actual requirements and is highly compromised. Such a deal could always have been foreseen as a compromise. That is how negotiations work but the deal seems to offer Brexit but with key features requiring continued close cooperation and the subsequent stifling of state limits. Or as many Brexiteers may put it. Not actually Brexit.

    It is furthermore tied in with something called a ‘back stop’. An ugly, undemonstrative term which basically means if we continue to fail to address the Irish issue Northern Ireland only will stay part of the EU, possibly ad infinitum. The Northern Irish are rightly not happy about this and quietly neither are the rest of us as it seems Brexit is held hostage to the needs of just a few.

    Other subjects confusing the issue are the ideas of further referendum and calling a General Election.

    The problem with going for a further referendum on the subject is a tacit admission of failure by the politicians to have acted on the result of the last one. Is the New Referendum Question to be?:

    The UK Government, who have struggled to get a consensus agreement on how to leave the EU despite being highly knowledgeable on the subject ask you, the people, who consistently claim to have not been informed despite much opportunity to be so, to advise how we should now act even though you do not have the opportunity to discuss this with the EU yourselves like we have during the past two years and have failed to get a good agreement on anything, much like you do when gathered together amongst yourselves in any case. Vote now.

    A new referendum would delay the process, upset many who thought that their clear simple views had already been ordained and it may all end up in more turmoil.

    I believe the act of wanting another referendum has two purposes. To delay the inevitable and to attempt to overturn the public vote.

    If politicians want to defy the public why don’t they do their job which is to be better informed and know more than we do on such subjects. So tell us we were misinformed and voted incorrectly, keep us in the EU, apologise for the whole messy state of things and then all resign as a matter of integrity. They won’t do this of course because too many are selfish and reliant on their careers. This is harsh but I have not heard one single politician express such a radical view.

    Labour has adopted a ‘nothing to do with us attitude’. Criticising where they can gain political oneupmanship and avoid giving clear guidance as much as possible. This could be an inspired tactic. Let the Tories mess up the whole shebang and glide in afterwards to sort it all out. The problem is that this attitude is difficult to maintain over a long period of constant debate.

    As a result Labour calls for a General Election have increased in recent weeks. However, as the prospect of having to do the Brexit themselves is not desired Labour are actually cunningly both calling for an immediate election but conversely prefacing it with all sorts of conditions to smear the message.

    The main thing Labour realise that right now a General Election would really serve little good at all. What would people be voting on? Yes many may switch away from the Conservative Party as a signal to demonstrate their anger at the inefficiencies so far but just as many would revolt against other party representatives because right now the population are losing faith with established political incumbents.

    Possibly there may be a large exodus to independent candidates, who have no party baggage. We could end up with a new Government of unknown history, picked from local celebrities and snake oil salespeople. All led by Nigel Farage. Now, that would be interesting. And tragic.


    If we Brexit, and it all goes bad who will the masses blame? The political establishment? The media? Each other? Or the EU? If the EU are perceived as causing a poor deal Brexit will the UK population stop using European products? Is even more, unimagined fiscal turmoil to be expected?

    And if we crash out of Europe with a hard Brexit and no deal will the UK be sued by the European Parliament? Could the UK be sued for any minor matter relating to trade, security, unexpected contingencies etc.?

    And finally, for now, after Brexit are we all going to have to start thinking about what happens next? After all nearly half of the population didn’t want to change so are these people waiting patiently to let Brexit occur and immediately start a call for Brentrance?

    The story will continue. Watch this space.

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    Politics [2017]

    Politics is big right now in the UK. We have a General Election being served up soon, with something called Brexit as a dessert course later on. So it may be perspicacious to re-read my thoughts from 2005.

    Though not on Brexit as I didn't foresee this in 2005. Sorry.

    All now published under Archive/Politics

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    Red Cross Bee

    A Blog first published on 5 Jun 2017

    The UK Elections are in full swing. Swinging from right towards left and back again dependant on the strategies playing out by the main party forces. And very interesting it is proving to be.

    If you follow the machinations you would often have heard of a possibly shadowy Australian figure called Lynton Crosby. A beknighted man, his is a name associated with the Conservative Party and I refer to him as shadowy purely because he is a behind the scenes political adviser and strategist and not an electable representative. If the Conservative Party wins well he will be quietly congratulated by many in the party.

    But at the time of writing the Conservatives and their leader Theresa May have not been conducting a powerful and effective campaign.

    Conversely the Labour Party appears to be doing the opposite.

    Despite many early criticisms, an earlier perceived unelectable shambles has matured into an apparently viable and challenging force, much due to the improving presentation of the Labour Leader.

    Has Jeremy Corbyn planned and strategised all this himself or in conjunction with his team or does he have a back-room Lynton Crosby? If so, who is this genuinely shadowy Red Crosby? And why is he/she/them never mentioned.

    Just asking.

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    The vinceunlimited Political Concept

    "Political interest is drying up and my intention is to make it damp again."

    Vince Poynter, 2005

    Well perhaps not with that particular sound-bite but you can see my intention.

    Too many times I hear that people are disinterested in politics whilst claiming that they could do better themselves.

    I share their sentiments but instead of spouting off without providing the proof I intend to offer an alternative. A new set of rules to re-engage the voting electorate.

    Select the issue you most want to get irate about by clicking on the sub-section links located below. These used to be located in a menu on the left but many rightwing types refused point blank to consider anything on the left.

    Note that although the style that these ideas and opinions are presented in is in a light hearted way, designed so that the concepts are readable and entertaining, there is a serious side to these issues and it would be good to see the best ideas making it into mainsteam politics.

    The System

    Currently we have a party based system of representation.

    Although relatively simple to understand it does have its limitations and within this section I analyse the advantages and disadvantages then conclude that a major shake-up is necessary.

    Select Political System below for more details.

    The Economy

    With a single mathematics 'O' level and no further education in economics it would be naive of me to assume I could find a better way of dealing with the economy.

    Just remember though that Einstein failed his exams.

    Select Economy below to read more.

    Law and Order

    For some Law and Order would mean persecuting the motorist, criminalising the drug users and sentancing all menaces to civilised society.

    When you select Crime below you will see that I argue it should mean the security of freedom.

    The Working System

    Why do we spend a quarter of our working time just getting there?

    This radical solution could end commuting and increase community spirit.

    Without clicking on the Working Time link below you will never know what I mean.

    Vote For It

    Finally, after due consideration of the above, if you think I may be onto something check out the Political Vote article below to see how you can show your support.


    These sections were originally published on the web site in May 2005.

    The author is a mere amateur at this political business so cannot claim that this list is a comprehensive manifesto. Arguably exhausting to read, certainly not exhaustive.

    More sections and other political commentary and articles could be added in due course, so look out for future versions of this webpage.

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    The Political System Proposal

    The Political System proposal is part of the vinceunlimited Political Concept which was published in 2005 to offer some alternatives to the Status Quo of British politics. Because nobody wanted popular rock in Parliament.

    The Political System


    The Old Party Order

    One of the most frustrating things about being non-political yet expecting to make a difference is the modern lack of choice.

    In essence this is a relatively good thing as historical choices provided a black or white choice between rampant socialism bordering on communism or policies so far right they needed a wide load sign.

    Now we have centrist political parties so they all offer mild degrees of the same thing. But nevertheless you still need to align yourself with one of the major players in order to make a real difference and that doesn't suit everyone.

    Have you ever read a party political manifesto? No, I didn't think so and neither have I.

    However I watch enough Newsnight to know the differences between red, blue and orange politics and no colour answers all my needs.

    Admittedly, one does not have to agree with everything a particular party says because if you find most of the things are acceptable then by becoming part of the team you can make a difference from within.

    There is one big caveat though - The Whips.


    For those not in the know essentially a whip is a party employed ex-debt collector who 'encourages' the party membership to vote for the party policies.

    If you do not tow the line then you will be effectively ex-communicated. And no one wants to serve on the Coventry seat.

    So if you align with a party expect to preach all their policies no matter how foul.

    There is an option.

    Independance Day

    Why not scrap the party system altogether?

    There are some independent candidates out there. Most may be familiar with Martin Bell, why not the full parliamentary 652 (or so). Just as long as they don't all wear crumpled white suits.

    If every candidate at an election was an independent participant you could judge them on their qualifications or policies, which would almost certainly be closer to what your community needs.

    The Independent Cabinet

    One issue that may spring to mind is that by every candidate being independent there would be no natural Prime Minister.

    The solution is a vote by all successful new MPs for the most suitable candidate for the job.

    The same would apply to all other cabinet posts so in theory we could have an elected successful economist running our national budget as opposed to a shopkeeper.

    Local Government

    Local government should also be elected on a non-party basis in much the same way.

    Although I suspect most of the candidates would be the ones who failed to become an MP.


    There would be no party funding as there would be no pressure groups jostling the fat cats for policies to suit them. So funding would have to be made centrally.

    However a limit on the advertising expenditure would be needed to ensure that the richest candidates would not have an unfair advantage.

    Only celebrities could get this free publicity from the red rag tops that symbiotically live with these people. Jade Goody for PM, I'm sure.

    The Term

    All candidates would be allowed a maximum of three consecutive periods in power or six overall.

    This would ensure a fair balance between having a good candidate and that candidate hogging the show.

    The term should be a fixed five years and we should all have a day off to vote.

    Not that it should be compulsory, if people do not think they can be bothered to have their say then that is fine by me. That way all the votes would come from people who do care.

    And whilst I'm on the subject I do not agree with the 'none of the above candidates' voting box or 'undecided'. If you can't decide then why bother me with your abject lackadaisical apathy.



    Let's all do it.

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    The Economy Proposal

    The Economy proposal is part of the vinceunlimited Political Concept which was published in 2005 to offer some alternatives to the Status Quo of British politics. Because nobody wanted just two chords in Parliament.

    The Economy

    Taxing Problems


    As you can read, under the section 'Political System' I have already proposed a radical way in which important issues such as the economy of our country should be dealt with.

    By appointing the most suitable Chancellor of the Exchequer I would be foolish to think I could do better, so I will not attempt to detail how I would keep our country's taxes at bay.

    However, even the most astute Chancellor would need to have some guidance on policy.


    This is not a new idea but it is radical.

    I believe that revenue collection via general taxation on earnings is fundamentally flawed.

    It would be a far better thing to shift that taxation burden onto expenditure, in other words from earnings based taxation to purchase tax.

    In this way taxation becomes a choice. If you don't buy anything you don't pay any tax.

    Obviously there would need to be controls to prevent earning in this country and spending in another and our balance of payments would need to be carefully controlled but there is no reason why this system could not be made into a global issue.

    Additionally, there may need to be some incentives to spend when the mood of the country is gloomy, such as when England loses at football.

    Naturally there would be big benefits such as the shifting of offshore accounts back into our economy, incentives for individuals to work harder without unreasonable penalty and the general feeling of fairness.

    However I would work on reducing the number of taxable areas.

    Just adding another layer of purchase tax to all the myriad of other taxes would be unacceptable.

    It is ludicrous, for example, that presently when you purchase a car a special car tax is added on before the application of VAT. I would certainly not propose another layer. There will be no tax on tax on tax!

    If we can resolve the issue of purchase rather than income tax then the purchase system will be a single agreed percentile, perhaps varying for certain products.

    Our clever Chancellor will have to decide the levels.


    Again, because I am not familiar with the details of expenditure for each governmental department I cannot glibly quote figures and blind you with facts and figures.

    In fact from where I'm sat in relation to you reading this I couldn't blind you in any way at all. Unless I suggested you increase the contrast to maximum and stare at the screen for three days. But I wont, you'll be pleased to learn.

    However I am aware that the big areas of expenditure are defence and social security, both of which are drains on our economy that we would be better off without.

    I will not attempt to resolve these complex issues here but release of just a small fraction of defence or social expenditure could release enough expenditure to almost double some other areas of need.

    Well worth mulling over a pint or two with the newly redundant Brigadier.


    As we are an ageing population there has been recent discussion about the inadequacies of our future pension needs.

    Current thinking is to raise the retirement age to accomodate the predicted shortfall. Instead, why not add two or three years more pension contributions on at the beginning rather than the end by commencing schemes from an early age?

    I would investigate national compulsary pension contributions from around age eighteen, after all it is this young generation that has true freedom of wealth. They may bemoan the ability to pay but this is usually done whilst propped up in a bar spending ten times as much on temporary gratification.

    I would explain that early adoption would ease later hardship.

    And if anyone decides to opt out of this then I'd get them to sign a contract and waggle it under their nose when they deride the basic, non-means tested, inflation proof, limp set payout.

    National Debt

    I'm no fan of debt.

    I do understand why we have a national debt but would personally work towards reducing this burden to nil, then become an effective creditor.

    Just think of the interest we could then charge the French.

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    The Crime Proposal

    The Crime - Law and Order proposal is part of the vinceunlimited Political Concept which was published in 2005 to offer some alternatives to the Status Quo of British politics. Because nobody wanted Francis Rossi in Parliament.

    Law and Order

    Criminal Writing

    Fair Sentencing

    My first gripe with the current law and order system we have is the apparently unfair sentencing we see time and time again.

    One of the main problems of our system is of letting convicted prisoners leave after just a low proportion of their sentences have been served. Surely it is not beyond the realms of imagination to alter the structure so this does not happen.

    If the intention is that the inmate serves five years then do not sentence them to ten.

    The reward for good behaviour should not be needed. Convicts, as well as people in general, should understand that good behaviour is the norm. So apply the sentence as five years but then add time on for bad behaviour.

    Perhaps a range of tariffs such as an extra day for instances of abusive language, another week for taking a cell-mates shepherds pie dinner, a month for placing a colleagues head in the head [to use a naval term] and extra year or two for breaking the TV remote.

    Maybe the last one needs some work but you get the picture.

    Unless the remote is broken, that is.


    Whilst on the subject of prisons why is it so easy to access drugs inside [I'm told]?

    I thought the idea was that these buildings were secure.

    Keep illicit stuff out and the reprobates in - It's a simple enough formula.

    However my general view on drugs is more liberal than most. It's not that I'm a user or even want to be, if I want to alter my mind I switch to BBC4.

    No my interest here, like everyone else, is that of a potential victim of drug fuelled crime.

    If drugs were not illegal crime would rocket - in a downward trend.

    I think the few idiots who get caught up with addiction could be treated in the same way as any other disease, through the health service.

    I support the Don't Ban Them - Tax Them Campaign. Or I would if there was such a campaign.

    The only way I would limit drugs is where their use impinges on others.

    And the biggest change would be in smoked drugs and I include the humble tobacco plant. Smoking should be banned everywhere another person may be and that includes your car if you intend to sell it.

    I even have the slogan - Be harsh on hash.

    Well, maybe not.


    Another treacherous drug is alcohol.

    It pervades every aspect of our society.

    Its spiritual home, the pub, is endemic and even features in all our main soap operas.

    I'm not anti-drink but I despise loutish behaviour brought on by alcohol and wonder why is it so necessary.

    Do these drunkards have so little in their lives that getting into a state where they can't remember what they do is so fulfilling? Beats me, but then I have a life.

    And I have little respect for those that drink and drive, but not just those that do it to excess, because they have an excuse of sorts - they are drunk. My respect diminishes the moment anyone says "I'll only have one."

    I assume they mean brain cell.

    The Motorist

    All of which brings me neatly onto the motorist and the law.

    If you are a regular reader of pages from my web site, or have just read through it all a few moments ago then you will probably know where I'm going to go with this. And it won't be under the speed limit.

    So first off take down all the speed cameras and place them near schools, busy shopping areas and old people homes near roads. Then destroy the other seventy percent of them.

    Incidentally I'd also move these older person homes away from the roads.

    Then re-assess all speed limits, this time using the advice of skilled drivers, not the cyclists and pensioners that form our local councils.

    Add a dash of modern technology so that variable signs can be used for different times of the day, seasons and weather.

    Then make advanced driving in association with the police compulsory. This way the police can concentrate again on being the good guys, not a bunch of tax enforcers, a reputation they do not want themselves.

    Boys in Blue

    On the subject of the police lets put more back on our streets and give them the power to cusp an ear or two when needed.

    It's about time we all learnt respect and the place to start is with our law enforcers.

    Followed very briefly by teachers, parents and last but not least our elders. And to most of you reading this that means me.

    Author: Vince Poynter
    Version 5.086 23 Mar 18
    Political Section, including Crime, First Published: Version 2.00 May 2005

    The Working Time Proposal

    The Working Time proposal is part of the vinceunlimited Political Concept which was published in 2005 to offer some alternatives to the Status Quo of British politics. Because nobody wanted all that double-denim in Parliament.

    Working Time

    Local Networking

    The Nightmare

    I am slightly biased here because currently I spend about thirty percent of my working day commuting and use a range of unpleasant forms of public transport.

    I know this doesn't apply to everyone but the more you commute the more you will appreciate my radical proposal for work.

    I cannot claim it is a brand new idea but one that no-one seems to have the commitment to implement.

    Until now.

    Local Working

    I propose that we scrap all unnecessary commuting by utilising a range of political incentives.

    It is about time we started to use the technology that we have created to ease our working lives.

    It is about time to work from home.

    I know that some are already doing this but this should be the norm, not the exception and there are three basic things that we need to make this happen.

    Basic Thing One - Trust

    Much of my work over the last six years could have been done at home. The underlying reason behind this not happening is lack of trust.

    Clients and employers are reluctant to trust an individual to work from home because of an irrational fear that instead the employee would be watching daytime television because let's face it we do.

    We need to get out of this cycle.

    Employers should trust the worker and employees should not abuse the position.

    After a while it will become the norm so this basic thing is a temporary problem.

    Basic Thing Two - Facilities

    This is where the key to the solution lies.

    People working from home shouldn't necessarily actually be doing it from their own house.

    A network of village and town facilities should be constructed to allow workers to gather together, locally, to share resources such as administration, copying and paperclips.

    This would ensure that everyone would network together and not die of boredom in front of the tele.

    The current 'national' offices would be transformed to serve as occasional meeting places.

    An added bonus would be the national construction programme that this would generate.

    Basic Thing Three - The Political Will

    That is served by this page of this web site.


    The negatives may all really be positive in the long run.

    Firstly, the reduction in tax revenue on 'commuting fuel' and other stealth taxes like the financial gain from speed cameras.

    Then there would be the reduction in use of public transport services.

    And finally Ken Livingstone would have to raise the London congestion charge to about £5,000 per vehicle to make it economical to run.


    By re-engaging community spirit and having more hours to work rather than be in the car or on the train we would all be able to complete our work within three or four days instead of five or six.

    Isn't that what we all expected computers to provide us with in the first place?


    There will always be some exceptions to the rule.

    Airline pilots will still need to commute to Heathrow, they will not be able to transform their front porch into a runway and make the in-flight bookings on their kitchen table.

    Sportsmen will have to gather together unless we all want to watch Michael Schumacher take on Pablo Montoya using a Playstation network link.

    And the Changing Of The Guard is much more impressive all together in The Mall than simultaneously in Basingstoke, Oxford, Little Thrumpton and Portsmouth [or wherever the Guards live].

    Author: Vince Poynter
    Version 5.089 28 Mar 18
    Political Section, including Working Time [previously entitled Work], First Published: Version 2.00 May 2005

    The Political Vote Opportunity

    The Political Vote opportunity is part of the vinceunlimited Political Concept which was published in 2005 to offer some alternatives to the Status Quo of British politics. Because nobody wanted to get down, down, deeper and down in Parliament.

    Political Vote

    Nailing The Colour

    From The Site

    You would have read from the other articles within this political section of my web site about an alternative way of doing things and may feel that I have a few good ideas. If so then this bit is there to guide you on how to register your support for my policies and methods.

    So far all I have done is launch the political section of my site, it isn't yet fully rounded and needs more content before it is a complete manifesto of my ideas and this will happen in due course.

    However you may still want to follow the options below.

    Supporting Vince

    When all is complete, and providing I have received the support I intend to formally run for office.

    To help start this ball rolling I need some positive feedback.

    Or negative, if you feel that I'm missing the mark.

    When I consider that support is there I'll advise where and when I'll stand. I'm not daft, I don't want to lose a deposit.

    So email your comments and we'll see what happens.

    Your Turn

    You may have been encouraged by my ideas and want to run yourself using similar policies.

    That is fine, the whole point of my system is that it is democratic.

    Use and quote the ideas at will. When Will is bored quote them to others and let me know how you get on.

    I assure you that if you are a major political representative wanting to jump policy ships then discretion will be given - right up to the point of me shouting it from the rooftops.


    If you want to lobby your own MP for any of my ideas pass the details of this site on to them and let me know what sort of response you get.

    Final Thought

    Finally, to finish on a point of interest I thought I would choose a colour for my party.

    This isn't strictly necessary as you will see from the System choosing my way means not aligning to one party, so it would be an amalgam of all political hues.

    When considering light all colours together make white but this choice would signify cowardice so wouldn't really represent the brave ideals.

    I could chose to have no colour at all, which in light terms is black. But black is too sinister and anyway shows all the fingerprints.

    So I'll use paint colour mixes instead.

    Having no paint colour is transparent but advertising any logo in this colour would be useless in campaigns - people would just see straight through it!

    So the colour, if there is to be one, should be a mix of all paint colours together and we must look to our childhood to see this in action.

    My political system will be launched in 'plasticine brown'.


    Author: Vince Poynter
    Version 5.090 29 Mar 18
    Political Section, including voting, First Published: Version 2.00 May 2005

    Being European

    One day all this will be mine, or mined. Your choice

    This article was first written in October 2003 and represented an opinion at the time, long before Brexit.

    In 2003 being a true European, as opposed to being within Europe, wasn't the view of many British people, despite the European market, the European Economic Community, being created within the Treaty of Rome in 1957 and the establishment of the European Union under the Maastricht Treaty on 1st November 1993, of which Britain was a part.

    Brexit, the popular term coined about the withdrawal of Britain from the European Union, was only voted for in a referendum on 23 June 2016. I have every intention of writing articles about this in the future so watch this space.

    Image of a Border Collie Dog, stood with an arched back.
    So why was this image chosen? Obviously, it's a Flexible Border...Collie

    Why do so many residents of the UK fail to acknowledge that they are European?

    Take a look at any atlas [apart from those with the flexible borders produced by the Israelis] and the landmass of Britain is clearly in Europe.

    We are Europeans. End of discussion.

    Of course those xenophobic Brits who refuse to acknowledge their position are really saying that they refuse to be 'European'.

    Some sad misapprehension that they would be forced to eat horses in the manner that the French do, be good in bed like the Italians or strut around like they own the place like most Germans.

    And that just isn't British.

    My personal opinion is that having closer ties with your neighbours is a good thing.

    Less war, more trade and better pasta imports.

    As long as we don't have to drive Czech cars.

    Why suffer passport and travel restrictions? We can save all that malarkey for the other world citizens nibbling at the borders.

    Europe today is a small place and should be accessible to all Europeans, including us Brits.

    Furthermore, European union is the first step towards world union and ultimately peace for all mankind.

    And the rule applies to other parts of the world too.

    Africa for all Africans.

    The Middle East for all nations - even the Israelis.

    And Australia for the kangaroos.

    Mind you, if it comes down to a clear choice between speaking Esperanto or becoming the next state in the good old US of A then I'm a happy hamburger eater.

    I'll even forgive them for not helping out in the Falklands.

    Or for charging us for their help in the Second World War.

    Or for accidentally shooting their allies every time they open fire.

    Just as long as the Yanks acknowledge that the word mum has a 'u' in it.

    Much like the word neighbour.

    Author: Vince Poynter
    Version 5.085 21 Mar 18
    First Published: Version 1.00 in Oct 2003
    Slightly edited: Version 5.016 9 Nov 2017
    Pre-header updated: Version 5.085 21 Mar 18
    The image depicts a Border Collie dog taken by the author's family around 1974. It was added in Version 5.016 9 Nov 2017